- Carolyn Lee Downes
- Mar 5
- 8 min read

When you're the kinda person that gets a free donut like this and instead of quickly throwing it away... might sit there nonchalantly picking each hair off ( or imagine doing this), only after to processes the fact that it's probably something you should throw away [then throws it away and moves forward].
Personal Reflection
Grief and Loss
Disorganized Attachment
Grief and Loss as a State or... style of Existence
Grief and loss, otherwise known as bereavement, in the diagnostic bible of mental health, looks like depression, includes most symptoms of it, but isn't labeled it, because identifiable evidence of having experienced a loss prior to it makes it a reasonable exception.
I'm not entirely sure what people had in mind when writing the DSM-V, but I can only imagine they hoped experiences of grief and loss would resolve themselves with time, whether or not a person sought therapy for it.
This makes me sad, because its literally a parallel of what they expect out of children showing signs of attachment issues.
Then, society seems to judge situations like this, without attempting to understand or help in them:
Grief and loss situations experienced by those with non-secure attachment styles appearing nonexistent, forced, awkward, or delayed.
What I wish more people knew about Grief, Loss, and Attachment Styles
The first, grief and loss is really all about losing the meanings we built about something, someone, and what it meant to ourselves and bout ourselves.
The second, attachment style, is like a formula for making learning associations between all the things we experience, in order to assign and create meanings about things we may or may not have to grieve about losing.
If you can't tell from the above, they are deeply connected. Read that bold/ italic portion again.
Disorganized Attachment as a formula for experiencing Grief and Loss
I'll get straight to the point. Developing a disorganized attachment style is an early response to surviving a lifetime of anticipatory grief and losses.
Let that soak in for minute.
The perspective from which Disorganized Attachment interprets the meaning of a 'Win' or Loss is usually attributed it to one of the two mindsets they are less consciously in, when either outcome occurred.
If a 'Win,' it serves as positive reinforcement (the addition of positive meaning) for them to lean more into either their sense of hyper-independence (inside the self) or sense of enmeshment (outside of the self) with the thing/ person/ hobby they are currently involved with, while pulling even more away from the other.
If a Loss, it serves as negative reinforcement (the threat of, or taking away of, positive meaning) for them to want to shut down, run away, deny, or completely withdraw from either their phase of hyper-independence or enmeshed sense of one with whatever person/ activity/ etc.. they've thrown themselves into, while running towards a phase of the other.
From a emotional survival stand point, disorganized attachment learning patterns actually do make a lot of sense. The problem is, they're highly unrealistic for surviving happily in a world with others who aren't living in survival mode and motivated by anticipatory losses, but rather living for experiences and motivated by curiosity and growth.
What Happens when Big Losses are Experienced by Someone with Disorganized Attachment?
Remember, this is someone whose fight or flight system is always anticipating grief and loss as a baseline. The difference is, we're currently talking about grief and losses that are a). unavoidable, b). can span across periods of life or even the lifespan, and c). occur outside of one's day-to-day relationship, habits, and preferences.
When encountering any combo, it can put one in a position of the very helplessness and loneliness that created their disorganized attachment style to begin with... but this time without an 'update' to manage the less commonly occurring situations like big losses we can't just run or cling on to for dear life.
Additionally, if considering the losses of people, I think it depends on one's baseline of how much they actually let those people in, in the first place. Losing someone you didn't spend everyday of your life with, or talking to as frequently as others, might feel even more distant for someone with disorganized attachment.
What's confusing is when 'not grieving normally' creeps into your mind and suggests something must be wrong.
So what happens? The loss serves as a catalyst to a chain reaction of effects from...
Subconscious Dissociation
Some might call this a form of 'avoidance,' but I would argue to consider it more of a kind of clinging to what is.
It's like dissociating towards, or into something's old meaning, as opposed to away from what it's potential new one could hold.
Because even if it's meaning didn't feel that deep, a deeper fear of losing whatever that something is/was, without fully understanding the breadth of its meaning (subconsciously) in the first place is even more daunting to the change-hating minded.
It's like having to solve a math problem you can old remember the the second portion of, but not the first and last, so naturally one might want to give up, or....
press a 'pause' button on, to finish later.
Struggling with patterns of uncertainty within transitional circumstances, is NOT something that is limited to being seen within our relationships- I hope you're understanding this by now.
Processing and/or Reprocessing Grief and Loss, from a Disorganized Attachment Mindset
I'm not going to sugar coat this- it's a more complicated process than people think. It requires time, patience, and commitment to wanting to rewire patterns of learning and memory association, more than whatever particular loss triggered attention to them.
Examples of losses that bring people into therapy with me that are linked to a Disorganized Attachment Style:
Rough breakup
Loss of a job one expected to be promoted in
Identity issues (inter group ones and intra group ones (ie. Bisexuality or being biracial)
Perfectionism
Process Addictions (ie. eating disorders, gambling, substance, social scrolling, etc...)
Loss of a parent or grandparent
Empty nesting
Going no contact with parents
etc...
because processing one loss of any of the limited list of the above can often serve a mere window into a whole system of practical and impractical habits one's picked up post developing their general associative learning style, which inadvertently can bud out of their attachment style.
General steps in Therapy I've personally experienced and the Therapy I provide for Disorganized Attachment amidst coping with Grief and Loss
Hunkering down to identify the true subconscious meaning beneath one's loss
Identifying prior experiences with threat to a similar theme
Getting to earlier, often the earliest, experiences or period of life when they experienced the physiology behind it, and when and how they coped or wished they had been supported in getting through the experiences.
Starting the Memory-based Learning work
Somewhere along one's timeline of experiences shared that feels activating enough to elicit a tolerable window of emotional pain behind a specific experiences likely themes of helplessness and vulnerability that did not provide comfort- OR-
Starting with processing the particular loss at hand, because it is most disturbing for the person in the moment, with them fully understanding that the benefits may not necessarily extend all the way back to childhood, nor prevent future scenarios from arising that could trigger their similarly undesirable ways of responding.
Reevaluating for effectiveness and potentially, or not, repeating a similar process to cope with other instances related to the same theme in the past, or discovering and beginning on another intertwined theme of emotional learning contributing to ones disorganized attachment patterns.
My Advice for those with or without a Disorganized Attachment Style,
that can identify with the conflicting and sometimes constipated emotional processing issues discussed in this post would be to start noticing patterns of meaning that you less consciously have assigned things and your patterns of reactions and responses to when they feel and/or are actually threatened.
Notice if each thematic system is functioning adaptively or not.
Does it's functioning make sense given the circumstances?
Could you imagine both a close friend and general acquaintance responding in a similar fashion?
Does the pattern show up frequently enough in your life to determine whether its presence or lack of presence would impact the quality of life you're living for better or worse?
These are just some of the literal questions I tend to ask myself and my clients, to determine whether or not they want to explore their options in dealing with these issues, and if they want to, how throughly they want to go in processing them.
Because like I mentioned earlier, working with disorganized attachment issues in general, requires time, patience, and continual commitment to making the lasting response changes that would've been helpful in the past, are practical in the present, and will benefit how one experiences circumstantially similar instances in the future.